solid rivet

[Mike67]

Hello everyone well I officially start building my Patrol I think I'm going to have a lot of questions I consult a lot the forum which is very interresting but i have a big problem i do not speak english but i speak french and german I use a translator really sorry first question someone would have the list of solid rivets for the main spar thank you so much

[PaulSA]

Welcome, Mike

I am not sure you are going to get an answer - this is not a VANS aircraft where every rivet call out is specified. The bore of the rivet (-3, -4 or -5) can be determined by the size of the hole shown in the plans or by that specified in writing. As for the length, you need one of these - https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catal...engthgauge.php

Then you either need a selection of lengths or get long rivets and a rivet cutter.

Hope this helps.

[Mike67]

effectively I built 2 Zenair on plans and 1 RV9A kit me it is the length of the rivets that I wanted to be able to order in advance

[Chewie]

For the 470-5 rivets I used -6, -8, -10 and -12s, for 470-4 rivets I used -12s (root attach fitting). Not all inclusive, I can't find what I used on the spacers/attach angles.

[geraldmorrissey]

Mike, the rivet lenghs can be computed by examining the drawings. The forward spar has only -4 and -5 diameters. The rear spar is only -4 diameter. It would be nice if you actually measure your capstrip and spacer bar stock to zero in your computations. Scrounge as many 1/8 and 5/32 cleco's as you can.
Welcome aboard
Gerry
Patrol #30

[Mike67]

Thank you so much for your help guys we will talk again I will surely still have a lot of questions

[geraldmorrissey]

Here are some actuals,
all thickness includes primer coat,
Fwd spar cap strips (extrusion) .128
plate reinforcements .128
rib angles .033
spacer bars outboard .126
spacer bars inbd .252
spar web .033

aft spar
spar caps and spacer bars .065
hope this helps
Gerry
Patrol #30

[Bcone1381]

Mike;

I had nothing better to do one day, and counted up the number of rivets needed. This list covers everything on Plans P. 5.

Splice Plate Rivets

(80) an470ad4-7

Cap Strip Rivets

(52) an470ad5-5

(128) an470ad5-7

(208) an470ad5-9

(290) an470ad5-11

Attach Angle/Spacer Bar Rivets

(20) an470ad4-5

(10) an470ad4-7

(10) an470ad4-9

(20) an470ad4-10

(15) an470ad4-11

(20) an470ad4-13

(15) an470ad5-5

(10) an470ad5-7

(10) an470ad5-9

(25) an470ad5-11

(40) an470ad5-13

End Plate Rivets

(36) an470ad5-11

[Bcone1381]

Here are the total number of rivets that the plans call for from pages 1 to 6. (I know someone must be saying "Who Counts Rivets?" How else are you going to know how many to order? )

An470ad3

-3 = 1300 or .43lbs

-3.5 = 600 or .23lbs

-5 = 100 or .06lbs

an470ad4

-5 = 200 or .18lbs

-6 = 600 or .50lbs

-7 = 100 or .13lbs

-9 = 30 or .05

-10 = 20 or .05

-11 = 40 or .06

-13 = 70 or .12

an470ad5

-5 = 60 or .10lbs

-7 = 130 or ..25lbs

-9 = 210 or .45lbs

-11 = 350 or 1.0 lbs

As I look at the list, realize rivets are cheap, and a cut rivet doesn't buck as nice as a normal rivet. So order some AN470AD3-4's too.

[Mike67]

Hi Bcone

thank you very mutch