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  • Thank you chris


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    • My pleasure, sir. Did you get your routing forms fixed up or replaced?
      Christopher Owens
      Bearhawk 4-Place Scratch Built, Plans 991
      Bearhawk Patrol Scratch Built, Plans P313
      Germantown, Wisconsin, USA

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      • Regarding air compressor for using pneumatic tools, I use a 2hp pancake compressor that puts out 2.7CFM @90psi. It runs my drill and 2X rivet gun just fine. I don't see a need for a big compressor for quite some time.
        Brooks Cone
        Southeast Michigan
        Patrol #303, Kit build

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        • So let me ask again.....do I need an air compressor and powered tools or no? I seem to be getting mixed messages from people


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          • Yes, for riveting at a minimum. The volume of the compressor depends on what you want to do with it. Die grinders, air-over-hydraulic jack for your press, and paint guns need volume (big tanks). Rivet guns, air drills, nail guns, not as much air volume required. Look at the air requirements for the tools you desire (measured in CFM), and match the compressor to the tool. If there's an electric equivalent, it may be cheaper to do electric if you're being budget conscious. If the CFM requirement for the tool you're considering is low, then pneumatic and electric tools become price competitive.

            I'm using electric/battery drills. Rivet gun and arbor press are air.

            Eventually you'll need an air compressor. As Brooks mentioned, he's running his rivet gun with a small pancake compressor. Those are quite affordable compared to a larger compressor.
            Last edited by Chris In Milwaukee; 04-16-2017, 04:40 PM.
            Christopher Owens
            Bearhawk 4-Place Scratch Built, Plans 991
            Bearhawk Patrol Scratch Built, Plans P313
            Germantown, Wisconsin, USA

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            • I see at HFT they have a 29 gallon 150 psi air compressor for 350


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              • So what do I need to get with it? Other than a hose


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                • That's the size I have. That and a hose ought to do it. Compressor should have a regulator on it, but low-cost regulators aren't super accurate at lower pressures. Rivet guns are typically operated at about 30-40psi, but I was able to get my regulator to hold pressure pretty well that far down. Some rivet guns also have a better regulator at the handle. That way you can run the regulator on your compressor higher, and use the one on your gun to knock it down to a more appropriate level with better control.

                  For my press, die grinder, etc, I run it at 90-100psi, but it consumes a fair amount of air and cycles on fairly frequently. 29 gallons should be good for just about everything, except maybe painting. But that's way way far away.
                  Christopher Owens
                  Bearhawk 4-Place Scratch Built, Plans 991
                  Bearhawk Patrol Scratch Built, Plans P313
                  Germantown, Wisconsin, USA

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                  • Originally posted by Chris In Marshfield View Post
                    That's the size I have. That and a hose ought to do it. Compressor should have a regulator on it, but low-cost regulators aren't super accurate at lower pressures. Rivet guns are typically operated at about 30-40psi, but I was able to get my regulator to hold pressure pretty well that far down. Some rivet guns also have a better regulator at the handle. That way you can run the regulator on your compressor higher, and use the one on your gun to knock it down to a more appropriate level with better control.

                    For my press, die grinder, etc, I run it at 90-100psi, but it consumes a fair amount of air and cycles on fairly frequently. 29 gallons should be good for just about everything, except maybe painting. But that's way way far away.
                    I have the same size, and if its from HFT....probably the exact same compressor. I echo everything Chris mentioned, however I would like to add that spending a little extra on good quality air fittings for your hoses/tools will save you a lot of heartache later. I found the cheap harbor freight fittings to be almost useless. On that note, rubber hoses are easier to work with than PVC, although do cost more.

                    One last thing that may be location dependent....I always run a good quality filter/dryer on my air line. We get a lot of moisture in the air here in Louisiana and it will help prolong tool life (along with a couple of drops in of oil in the tool before first use each day)
                    Steve Nicholson
                    Lafayette, LA

                    4 Place Scratch build #1377 in progress (Wings)

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                    • Where do I find "good quality fittings and where do you suggest I get them?


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                      • What hose size do I need?


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                        • I'd probably just not get your air hose from HF if it's a concern. Go to Lowes or Home Depot instead. I've not experienced any problem with my Menards hoses.
                          Christopher Owens
                          Bearhawk 4-Place Scratch Built, Plans 991
                          Bearhawk Patrol Scratch Built, Plans P313
                          Germantown, Wisconsin, USA

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                          • What size hose should I get


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                            • What size hose should I get?







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                              • Is someone going to tell me what size hose to get or am I suppose to guess?



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