Bearhawk Aircraft Bearhawk Tailwheels LLC Eric Newton's Builder Manuals Bearhawk Plans Bearhawk Store

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Welding 2025

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #16
    I am using 92 cuft oxygen and 75 cuft acetylene both are about all I want to handle in and out of the car hatchback. OSHA is one thing but I have found enough support for transporting the acetylene horizontally. Once I have the new acetylene cylinder strapped in vertically to my rig, I don't attach the regulator until the next day, like 18-24 hours after transport. This is accepted practice outside of industry.

    Most interesting thing I found about the acetylene is ambient temperature greatly affects tank pressure. On the loading dock, in the sun, it might be 250 psi. But after installing in the shop and cooling down overnight to maybe 40 degrees, the pressure is much less.

    Also, cold temperatures affect the performance of the torch. Seem like overall ambient temperature above 60 degrees is best. The torch is rather "touchy" in colder temperatures.

    Cost of oxyacetylene set-up versus TIG I believe is still significantly less, though nowhere near as cheap as some old wags will tell it. My acetylene refills cost $110 and oxygen is $45.

    I am almost a year into learning and practice and not ready to fabricate any parts yet. Making some progress though.
    Frank Forney
    Englewood CO
    https://eaabuilderslog.org?s=FranksLSA
    EAA Chapter 301

    Comment


    • #17
      If stuck buying new, the gas rig I have (current Cyberweld prices) is about $750 plus tax/ship (Smith AW-1A, 3-4 tips, a set of arrestors, a good lightweight kevlar hose, mid-grade Victor gauges)..

      My Everlasting 255 EXT was about $1600 a few years ago... bought due to the ease of handling aluminum, but decent DC 200A TIG machines (steel and stainless) run about $350-$550. Add some tungstens and a nicer cup kit, and you are going to be in the $500-$700 range.

      Assuming you can find used tanks and locate a gas store that will refill, seems like gas costs prob run even over time, with the extra bottle cost not really a factor (I keep a second argon bottle in the shop). Not that a decent gas setup has gotten that more expensive (my AW-1 was $135 back in 2022, now about $180), but good TIG stuff has gotten way cheaper due to inverter power and stiff completion in the marketplace in the low and mid-range market. Miller still owns the top end market in the US, but even some long-time Lincoln fans are ditching what have become troublesome machines in favor of the Everlasts, despite their origin point.

      Comment


      • Frank
        Frank commented
        Editing a comment
        It's possible that TIG costs may be close to oxyacetylene. It's also possible to TIG weld on a 20 amp circuit, which is currently my situation, pun intended. However there are some good reasons to go with oxyacetylene...
    Working...
    X