After many attempts to fix both our propellers, which were leaking grease, WW came to the conclusion maybe the 210 was not the proper fit for our engine size and harmonics and have sent a new prop for us to try. It’s their 284 constant speed composite foam core 84 inch swepttip. We were finally able to try it out today and compared to the 80 inch 210, which is still on Dennis’s plane, they performed pretty much the same in cruise. The take off performance was noticeably better though. Its been a while, but WW has bent over backwards working with us trying to get our problems fixed. At one point they even overnighted my propeller back to me. After some time, and we’re sure this prop is going to work for us, they’ll send another one for Dennis. On another note, which might not mean much to the guys, but I think this new 284 is a real beauty/beast. It looks great and really performs.
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Do you know what the prop-to-ground clearance is for both 3-point attitude, and "level" attitude (like for a wheel landing)? Probably an optical illusion based on the angle of the photo, but that prop looks pretty long in the picture, and it made me curious... Thanks! (I still think that's a really gorgeous airplane, by the way! One of my favorite paint schemes and color combos.)Jim Parker
Farmersville, TX (NE of Dallas)
RANS S-6ES (E-LSA) with Rotax 912ULS (100 HP)
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Jim, I think it was 19 off the ground in the 3 point. Didn't check in level yet, but I will. I don't usually do those stick forward high tail, wheel landings, but if it's a problem or even if I think it's a problem I have an easy fix and a good excuse to go to the 850's. ;-) On another note, this prop is 2 lbs lighter than the other one, so right now, my plane and Dennis's weight the same. Thanks, I like the look too.
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What flavor of O-360 are you running? I've got a friend with a 200hp angle valve motor that is considering that prop, but next to the one MT reccomends for that engine the WW has way less chord, which seems like it would make less lift at low speed.
I have a 210 on the way, eventually I guess for my 540.
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Looking at the blades in FlyGirl1's picture and the blades in your picture side-by-side, it looks to me like the MT blade "fattens" more rapidly near the hub, but overall, they appear to be very close from about 1/3 span outward. Guess we'll have to have a side-by-side "fly-off" to see which works better. But in terms of performance per dollar, there's not much contest, in my book.
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It's ECI's 185 horse OX-360. The widest part of the 210 is around 9 inches and I believe the 284 is 7 inches and a weight difference of 2 lbs-42 vs 44. Measuring blade to blade it was actually 2.5 in dif, unless I'm measuring to the wrong point. The 210 tip is flat across, while the 284 is swept. If anybody is wondering about prices, W.W. is pretty competitive, but last time we checked Mark came back with a pretty sweet deal on the Hartzell trailblazer
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Yes and I wish I didn't. It fit perfect. They talked about me supplying a spinner for static balancing when they built up the prop so I bought theirs at $1600 US. Found out later that they only balance the larger props with a spinner installed. It wasn't done on mine. Other than they initially built the wrong blades for the hub I provided, this was a bit disturbing. Lots of spinners around for a fraction of that amount.
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Originally posted by Steve W View PostYes and I wish I didn't. It fit perfect. They talked about me supplying a spinner for static balancing when they built up the prop so I bought theirs at $1600 US. Found out later that they only balance the larger props with a spinner installed. It wasn't done on mine. Other than they initially built the wrong blades for the hub I provided, this was a bit disturbing. Lots of spinners around for a fraction of that amount.
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Originally posted by Steve W View PostMy hub was a McCauley so I would imagine any spinner with a backing plate to fit a Lycoming would work. WW copied McCauley’s hub and shaved some metal off and their spinner fits perfectly so it should go the other way.
You go to something like the 540 powered 182's and it's more expensive for a used one in a salvage yard then WW's.
If you have any ideas on where to look, I'm all ears.
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