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    New member to the forum here. I am a 55 year old airline guy, and very much looking forward to never seeing the inside of an airline terminal again. We will be empty nesters in about 3 years, so I plan on starting a build right about then. I have been slowly finishing my workshop, and now have a nice air-conditioned space for a build. The only thing left to do is some framing for one wall and a bathroom. I plan on building 3 or 4 work tables as well. Once I start, I want to have my build done within 2 years.

    I hope to be placing a kit order sometime around the end of 2025. I am still undecided on what I will build. As a first time builder, I had previously ruled out a Bearhawk due to the complexity of the project. I am very much a follow the directions type of guy.

    I am an avid astro-photographer, and plan on combining the two hobbies. Flying to dark sky sites to camp out and set up my telescope very much appeals to me. Those types of trips will most likely be solo. (My wife has three rules: No sitting in the back seat, No sleeping on the ground, and there must be a shower.)

    First, the perfect airplane does not exist. Every one is a compromise of some sort. 99% of my flying will be either solo, or with just 1 other person. I live in North Texas, and I plan on doing quite a bit of flying out west and north, so anything less than 120mph just isn't going to cut it. That rules out a Highlander, KitFox, etc. I do plan on having a light IFR capable plane. I won't be flying much, if at all, at night.

    I think my solo flights will take me mostly to back-country type strips, but I would like to be able to go off airport with little worry. Something like the Rans S-21, or the Glasair Sportsman 2+2 would have my worried about durability, especially with the horizontal stab, so I would have to limit my choices of destination.

    The only other airplane I would consider is the RV-15, but at this point, it's kind of like Bigfoot to me. I may or may not exist, but there are a few pictures.

    That brings me to Bearhawk, specifically a Companion or 4. If Bearhawk comes through on the new build manuals, I think either one would go to the top of my list. The active forum definitely gives it an edge too.

    Sorry for the long first post.






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    Looking at your requirements, it seems that Bearhawk is definitely the best fit. You clearly need a taildragger (for unimproved strips), and high-wing is just so much easier for everything (getting in and out — we aren’t getting any younger, getting out of it in the rain, plus enjoying the view below…).

    There are several excellent builder logs out there, on YouTube, that document the process (Rob Caldwell, Colby Osbourne, as well as Neville Bailey from New Zealand). Between the three, you get a lot of insight, as well as details about challenges (so you can avoid some mistakes they made).

    Bearhawk is one of the most complete kits in its category. The building process seems less challenging for an inexperienced builder than many of the competitors. You get plenty of range, decent cruise speed, and plenty of payload. I’d probably go with 4-place, rather than the Companion. The two are very similar, but there may be times when you’d like to bring the kids (or another couple) along. It’s just a matter of whether the difference in cost justifies it.

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    • #3
      Welcome, and I'm glad to hear you are going about this process in a productive way by thinking first about the mission! How would you describe the cargo when you are going out on your star flights? Something the size of a suitcase, drink cooler, ez-up tent, etc? This will be an important mission criteria.

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      • #4
        Welcome. From my experience as a first time builder, I would encourage you to proceed. There is a ton of resources, one of which is this forum. The kit manufacture, Bearhawk aircraft, the designer Bob Barrows, and others already mentioned, have been very helpful. A number of builder have shared their build logs and I have found them very helpful. The other resource that has given me a lot of insight is my local building community and EAA Chapter 129. To have experienced builders put eyes on your project is invaluable and helpful in learning new skills and avoiding costly mistakes.

        I am not sure what the wait time is on a kit, but I waited a year to get mine. It was a good time to do some planning, gather tools and supplies and prepare a build space. It sounds like you are already doing that. Again welcome and enjoy your building experience.
        Roger
        QB Companion C-9
        N51RK

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        • #5
          Thanks for all the responses. My astrophotography gear would be about 75 lbs max. Then there is the rest of my camping gear. The companion would work well for that, I'm sure, but the 4 would give lots of flexibility.

          I've been watching whatever I can find on youtube. Everything looks do-able for me, but covering the fuselage does look daunting.

          I'm in no hurry yet. I'd definitely take a trip up to Fairview before ordering, and I'm close enough to make it a day trip.






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          • #6
            If cargo length is not a factor, then the Companion and the 4-Place would both be suitable. The 4-place without the back seat is outright cavernous and can handle things almost 6' long. The Companion has very good weight capacity, just not as long of a cargo area. By GA standards it is a very capable plane. A visit to Bearhawk Aircraft will be most valuable, as would a trip to Oshkosh in another few weeks.

            Your engine preference may help drive the decision between the 4-Place and Companion. If you install a 180-200hp 4-cylinder engine in a 4-Place, you will not be happy with routinely climbing to 10,000 feet if it is loaded to 2500 pounds. If the load is just you and 200 pounds of gear, you will be around 2000 pounds, and even with the smaller engine it will do fine out west. If you think you want to load to max gross and routinely climb above 8000 feet, go with a 6-cylinder and a 4-Place. We have lots of good threads about engine selection in the archive here.

            Covering the fuselage is a relatively easy part of the project. There is good documentation and as long as you pick a process, read and follow their directions, you will do fine. The covering companies have a strong incentive to make their process succeed, and they have good training materials available to accomplish that. If you are coming to Oshkosh, try to get in to one of their half day workshops. By the end of one of those you'll have much more understanding of the scope. Do one for Polyfiber and one for Stewarts to see the differences.

            Also keep in mind that many of the most tedious tasks have been changed to be done by the factory. Kits have only gotten easier to build in recent years. It is still a big project, but many of us have been first time builders and produced nice planes.

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            • #7
              Don't sweat the covering. I never covered an aircraft before but found the process fun and not hard. I used Stewart Systems for everything BUT you can just use the Stewart Systems EkoBond glue and covering instructions then use any other paint process you like. The FkoBond is water based, non-toxic, non-smelly, and doesn't require 4.5M clamps during the covering process. Put the glue on the frame, let it tack up, then just lay your fabric on. You can use the heat of your hand to temporarily tack the cloth down while you adjust the fit. A quick tug will release it and then you can reposition. I love the stuff.
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              Mark

              Maule M5-235C C-GJFK
              Bearhawk 4A #1078 (Scratch building - C-GPFG reserved)
              RV-8 C-GURV (Sold)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TJ_Slice View Post
                We will be empty nesters in about 3 years, so I plan on starting a build right about then. I have been slowly finishing my workshop, and now have a nice air-conditioned space for a build. The only thing left to do is some framing for one wall and a bathroom. I plan on building 3 or 4 work tables as well. Once I start, I want to have my build done within 2 years.
                I encourage you to contact Virgil and Mackenzie Irwin, owners of Bearhawk Aircraft, sooner rather than later. Get a feel for the size of the back orders they have. See if they'll take a refundable deposit to solidify the delivery date. Keep that also in mind regarding your engine. I just cant believe how long folks have been waiting for those two items.

                I'm not say "Buy now" rather Collect data on these two factors so you know.

                Are you coming to OSH?
                Brooks Cone
                Southeast Michigan
                Patrol #303, Kit build

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                • TJ_Slice
                  TJ_Slice commented
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                  I'm not coming to Oshkosh, but I plan to set up a visit to Bearhawk soon.

              • #9
                In a factory made plane-- a Belanca scout might work except it wont have the good top speed the bearhawk has. And --- of coarse you wouldn't get to build it----
                I have not seen any other stol capable planes that can touch the bearhawk's high and low speed ranges. Some of the RV series but they are not stol or load haulers....

                Covering is not hard at all. especially stewarts--- from what I have seen---- NOTHING better than washing out your paint gun with warm water in the sink.
                Tim

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by fairchild1934 View Post
                  In a factory made plane-- a Belanca scout might work except it wont have the good top speed the bearhawk has. And --- of coarse you wouldn't get to build it----
                  I have not seen any other stol capable planes that can touch the bearhawk's high and low speed ranges. Some of the RV series but they are not stol or load haulers....

                  Covering is not hard at all. especially stewarts--- from what I have seen---- NOTHING better than washing out your paint gun with warm water in the sink.
                  Tim

                  I'm not at all interested in owning a certified plane. I want to be able to do my own maintenance, and figure that building will allow me to learn every square inch of my plane. I've been watching videos on covering, and I am pretty sure I can get that done. I am planning on enlisting some professional help with my painting. I don't think I could pull off the scheme I have in mind by myself.

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