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  • Nev
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    What’s the purpose of the gear re-design ? Is it a weight saving ?

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  • zkelley2
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    Originally posted by Battson View Post

    Show ponies have previously fetched north of $140k for looks alone. This plane has tangible value in terms of a long list of real modifications which cost the seller a lot of money to purchase and install, plus countless time in literal research and development as discussed here in this thread. I believe this person doesn't have the repairman cert and started with a stock plane, so needed to have these installed by others - as would anyone else buying a completed plane.

    Therefore the price reflects the real cost to create such a highly customised and extremely high performance machine, without starting from scratch / kit.

    For comparison, take a look at Greg's new videos of Bushwacker II on his YouTube channel "mauleguy". This Bearhawk 4-place has every mod which Greg included on Bushwacker and a lot more, apart from the extended wingtips (which you will soon be able to bolt on for next to nothing in the scheme of aircraft price tags). To me this plane is worth about what he's asking. I too hope he gets something close. Our plane isn't too dissimilar to this machine - in terms of performance I think we do a little better as we're lighter, but I am not selling

    Just gonna put these here for the record:

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    Note the revised gear design.
    In the US you only need the repairman cert to do the condition inspection. My grandmother can do all the mods and mx to my airplane she wants. Just can't do the condition.

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  • Battson
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    Originally posted by zkelley2 View Post

    Wow, and for a price! I mean, I hope he gets it. I'd sell mine tomorrow for something near that.
    Show ponies have previously fetched north of $140k for looks alone. This plane has tangible value in terms of a long list of real modifications which cost the seller a lot of money to purchase and install, plus countless time in literal research and development as discussed here in this thread. I believe this person doesn't have the repairman cert and started with a stock plane, so needed to have these installed by others - as would anyone else buying a completed plane.

    Therefore the price reflects the real cost to create such a highly customised and extremely high performance machine, without starting from scratch / kit.

    For comparison, take a look at Greg's new videos of Bushwacker II on his YouTube channel "mauleguy". This Bearhawk 4-place has every mod which Greg included on Bushwacker and a lot more, apart from the extended wingtips (which you will soon be able to bolt on for next to nothing in the scheme of aircraft price tags). To me this plane is worth about what he's asking. I too hope he gets something close. Our plane isn't too dissimilar to this machine - in terms of performance I think we do a little better as we're lighter, but I am not selling

    Just gonna put these here for the record:

    medium_image_1629343_12_1609367237.jpeg?5345.jpg

    medium_image_1629343_13_1609367237.jpeg?7373.jpg

    medium_image_1629343_15_1609367235.jpeg?644.jpg

    medium_image_1629343_16_1609367234.jpeg?8743.jpg
    Note the revised gear design.
    Last edited by Battson; 01-10-2021, 05:16 PM.

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  • Battson
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    They haven't made a wing yet which VGs won't improve upon. It's all down to the way they work.

  • rodsmith
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    That is quite the plane!

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  • zkelley2
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    Originally posted by svyolo View Post

    It looks like the bird hit the market. Looks nice. Interesting cowl flaps as well. I wish he was on the forum to discuss his build. I hope all goes well for him.
    Wow, and for a price! I mean, I hope he gets it. I'd sell mine tomorrow for something near that.

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  • svyolo
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    Originally posted by Battson View Post

    Sounds like they have done what was expected, small reduction in stall speed and much flatter deck angle (about 50% closer to level). From what I understand, testing finished a long while ago.

    I expect this plane will come up for sale sometime in the future, for unrelated reasons.
    It looks like the bird hit the market. Looks nice. Interesting cowl flaps as well. I wish he was on the forum to discuss his build. I hope all goes well for him.

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  • Nev
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    That’s one seriously cool looking plane.

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  • svyolo
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    I guess my STOL mods will be limited to VG's and maybe some nice wingtips. I am not sure the VG's are that effective on the B model wing.

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  • 500AGL
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    As it’s designed for existing cub mounts it’s not a plug and play to a Bearhawk. But one could take the concept and fabricate their own.

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  • 500AGL
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    5F5CA41E-794A-467E-987B-E15C2FC52BA7.jpeg803AA97D-86FD-4910-AD48-7A0A28815A59.jpeg Here Zach.
    You can zoom in and see the hinges he makes. It a poor mans fowler bracket. Offset like a Husky and uses your existing flap.

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  • 500AGL
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    Zach I don’t know what photo you are looking at but I don’t believe Shane has any Keller flaps. On his current cub he has his flap hinges.

  • zkelley2
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    The only flaps I see a picture of are the Doug Keller flaps that airframes alaska sells.

    They are very different.

  • 500AGL
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    You may want to consider looking at Shane Madson’s hinges. Although perhaps Randy’s may be similar?

    We create new builds and are also available to assist you on your build. We pride ourselves on exceptional quality and our attention to detail is second to none. In an ever-evolving industry, Mad Custom Cubs is committed to providing the leading edge. We are known for thinking outside the box and creating "one of a kind" builds.

    (https://madcustomcubs.com/product/fowler-flaps/)

    If you look at some photos of his cub you’ll see how the hinges roll the flap aft as they deploy.
    Last edited by 500AGL; 12-30-2020, 08:11 PM.

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  • Pbruce
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    Is it the slot between the wing and the first section of flap or the combined angle of the sections which allows for the lower pitch attitude for a given speed, or what? Is there any video or photo documentation available to show this simpler installation with this Carbon Concepts flap? It’s pretty neat stuff. Planning big wheels on my Patrol, and I’m thinking the pitch attitude will determine what can be done within my comfort zone. I’m going as stock as can be done to start, but I’ll be paying attention to thiS thread with much interest.

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