Correct me if I am wrong but this has to be the best footage of a Patrol, maybe any Bearhawk flying to date. Also Jon's getting some good numbers in the STOL Comp at the end.
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I like his videos, I think he do a bit more "commercial". Most of his videos he barely mentions Bearhawk.
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I'm sorry. I saw this video a few days ago, and I literally stopped watching about 1/2 way through. Jon was provided this Bearhawk Patrol to promote it. The fact that he isn't is a real turn off for me.Rob Caldwell
Lake Norman Airpark (14A), North Carolina
EAA Chapter 309
Model B Quick Build Kit Serial # 11B-24B / 25B
YouTube Channel: http://bearhawklife.video
1st Flight May 18, 2021
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Originally posted by robcaldwell View PostI'm sorry. I saw this video a few days ago, and I literally stopped watching about 1/2 way through. Jon was provided this Bearhawk Patrol to promote it. The fact that he isn't is a real turn off for me.
Just an opinion of course.
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Originally posted by robcaldwell View PostI'm sorry. I saw this video a few days ago, and I literally stopped watching about 1/2 way through. Jon was provided this Bearhawk Patrol to promote it. The fact that he isn't is a real turn off for me.
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Sometimes a relatively small number of folks can be influential.
The FLY8MA email address from his website is cfi@fly8ma.com
There could really be something in the works too that we dont know about, I suppose. Mark G. must be pretty happy so far.
For now 8MA is showing the whole world an adventure the Bearhawk line can produce and it activates the imagination. I find it hard to believe that the end game is not to show off its cross country efficiency and speed against the host of inferior STOL aircraft available. When you can go further on a tank of gas into the bush, the area available explore and imagine goes up exponentially. An imagination that depends on a Patrol is powerful. That makes it an elite aircraft, rightfully so.Last edited by Bcone1381; 08-08-2020, 09:04 AM.Brooks Cone
Southeast Michigan
Patrol #303, Kit build
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Also wasnââŹâ˘t aware that itââŹâ˘s not his, nor is it my business.
Either way, his videos are shot and edited pretty well. He gives away a ton of information on flight training for free. HeââŹâ˘s a good ambassador to aviation and in many ways a first point of contact for many newcomers.
Glad heââŹâ˘s flying a Patrol and not a Cub, kitfox, or JustAC like most Youtubers seem to gravitate towards.
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I've never known Mark G to do anything foolish, and if he thinks its a good idea, who am I to say otherwise? After all, it's Mark's airplane! LOL
But I just love seeing some YouTube videos that are NOT about Kitfox / CarbonCub / SuperStol aircraft for a change. I thought the first couple of videos Fly8MA did featuring the Patrol were pretty great advertising.Jim Parker
Farmersville, TX (NE of Dallas)
RANS S-6ES (E-LSA) with Rotax 912ULS (100 HP)
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I think its working fine...there is a large decal/sticker on both sides of the nose,,,saying "BEARHAWK PATROL"....the pilot is a celebrity of sorts....and a clean cut... positive ambassador for the industry...
the plane and pilot are stars of the show...i think both the Patrol and Fly8MA are a good fit....
and I dont think we should be talking about this in public...sometimes to create magic...you need to be subtle...and not in your face....I think its a good mix
i really enjoyed watching the video...its really ...really well made for a youtube vid...
remember the Rockford Filles..... and for the younger crowd...Fast and Furious...we all know what cars were used...its the cool actors working magic and thus legends are born....let the romance bloom....
I dont know crap about cars....but I do know the 1999 Nissan Skyline is one of the best stock factory cars ever made....cause i was educated by a movie...
so lets gently close the door on this and let the magic happen...cause what you could be witness to is the birth of a legend..
.....I say break out the cigars...Last edited by way_up_north; 08-09-2020, 05:29 AM.
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Originally posted by way_up_north View PostI think its working fine...there is a large decal/sticker on both sides of the nose,,,saying "BEARHAWK PATROL"....the pilot is a celebrity of sorts....and a clean cut... positive ambassador for the industry...
the plane and pilot are stars of the show...i think both the Patrol and Fly8MA are a good fit....
and I dont think we should be talking about this in public...sometimes to create magic...you need to be subtle...and not in your face....I think its a good mix
i really enjoyed watching the video...its really ...really well made for a youtube vid...
remember the Rockford Filles..... and for the younger crowd...Fast and Furious...we all know what cars were used...its the cool actors working magic and thus legends are born....let the romance bloom....
I dont know crap about cars....but I do know the 1999 Nissan Skyline is one of the best stock factory cars ever made....cause i was educated by a movie...
so lets gently close the door on this and let the magic happen...cause what you could be witness to is the birth of a legend..
.....I say break out the cigars...
Go read Jon's ABOUT section on his YouTube channel. https://www.youtube.com/c/FLY8MA/about. Does he mention Bearhawk? Nope... The Cessna 170 get's a shout out. But no Bearhawk... It's pathetic guys. Borderline rude in my opinion... If you're waiting for magic, I hope you're not holding your breath. My cigar is staying in the humidor.Last edited by robcaldwell; 08-09-2020, 08:21 AM.Rob Caldwell
Lake Norman Airpark (14A), North Carolina
EAA Chapter 309
Model B Quick Build Kit Serial # 11B-24B / 25B
YouTube Channel: http://bearhawklife.video
1st Flight May 18, 2021
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I've made no mention of flying abilities, expertise, discipline and flat out raw talent. Only what these videos do for the promotion of the product they represent. From the day I encountered the Bearhawk, I've been astonished at the lack of promotion and insignificant featuring it gets. Which is why I decided to promote and share the Bearhawk through YouTube. I really don't consider what I'm doing narcissistic.
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Rob, I don't think what you do is either. But a bunch of the aviation youtube names you mentioned.... well. Ya.
Nothing you do is about you. It's about what you're doing. BIG difference. And I'm not saying they can't fly. Most cowboys have really good stick and rudder. They usually have hilariously poor ADM.
Someone that make really good aviation videos is Zane from BCP.
Patey's videos aren't about him either. I wish there was more "boring" engineering type talk, but I'm sure most his followers don't want that. I don't need to see another montage of stacking dimes and brushing epoxy, but that's what's sexy.
I think it's really hard to have a million+ following and be a person I would want to be within a mile of. The personality required to get there just isn't a good one.
I'm also intrigued by what Jon does or ends up doing considering the circumstances. But I can't fault him for not going full on toolbag to get views.Last edited by zkelley2; 08-09-2020, 09:18 AM.
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Growing up and learning to fly in Alaska, I would totally echo what Zach is saying. I can't stand the flying cowboys. Heck, when someone asks me if I'm a bush pilot the answer is a firm "no" even though I've hit all of the strips you typically see on youtube, and have flown to the Bering sea. The only person I can enjoy is Mike Patey, because it's not about him, it's about engineering and science. I've participated in the youtube movie thing a little bit, but even then, the mini movie was about how much of a bunch of posers we are, and the solution: Brisket.
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To be fair, I do brand myself somewhat as there should always be a "who" when developing a process or a series. I think of it as a "follow along with me" exercise. It's the psychological connection for the follower. From there, I try to build on facts and experiences.
I also REALLY like Zane's videos and wish there were more of them! He makes art!Rob Caldwell
Lake Norman Airpark (14A), North Carolina
EAA Chapter 309
Model B Quick Build Kit Serial # 11B-24B / 25B
YouTube Channel: http://bearhawklife.video
1st Flight May 18, 2021
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Comparing this last video to the rest of his was an improvement for Bearhawk branding which was the point of this thread. Agreed, he needs to do better at highlighting the Patrol.. It's all about regular, steady content that imprints the brand on the potential customer.Last edited by N942VT; 08-09-2020, 11:04 AM.
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